1 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:42,240 explode the bazaar or e-ticket ride into 3 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:45,640 the world of the paranoid strap yourself 4 00:00:52,710 --> 00:00:48,030 the England as we traverse the universe 5 00:00:56,610 --> 00:00:52,720 exploring the unexplained UFO s ghosts 6 00:01:00,570 --> 00:00:56,620 Lost Worlds cryptozoology waters as well 7 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:00,580 as other dimensions it's time to take 8 00:01:08,730 --> 00:01:05,470 back the night now you are electrifying 9 00:01:15,780 --> 00:01:08,740 hosts of exploring the bizarre Timothy 10 00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:15,790 Begley and team sports Wow incredible 11 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:19,860 footprints why are they strange and huge 12 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:23,290 hmm okay now I thought we were going to 13 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:26,290 be tracking some like big hairy Bigfoot 14 00:01:34,530 --> 00:01:30,250 monster but Sasquatch is more than three 15 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:34,540 toes not like these weird old tracks you 16 00:01:39,420 --> 00:01:36,910 got that right but we are in the swamps 17 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:39,430 of Missouri and this is an entirely 18 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:42,310 different type of creature I hear they 19 00:01:50,460 --> 00:01:46,990 call him mo mo mo mo well that's a silly 20 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:50,470 name I've heard of Bigfoot burgers in 21 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:52,990 you know some of those touristy places 22 00:02:00,030 --> 00:01:56,860 where the squatches seen but I don't 23 00:02:02,850 --> 00:02:00,040 know how a mo mo burger is going to go 24 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:02,860 over with customers let's be cautious 25 00:02:09,469 --> 00:02:06,159 and tread carefully as we don't know the 26 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:09,479 disposition of this beast doing now 27 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:12,330 sheight and they can hear him now okay 28 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:14,650 maybe we should get ourselves back out 29 00:02:19,830 --> 00:02:16,780 of the swamp and back to the dry 30 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:19,840 interior of the KCUR studios in Las 31 00:02:25,470 --> 00:02:22,510 Vegas well it's not so easy to get out 32 00:02:27,630 --> 00:02:25,480 of a swamp your legs get kind of stuck 33 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:27,640 and you've got a really pull to get out 34 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:30,130 but that sounds like a great idea 35 00:02:40,259 --> 00:02:35,410 nope back in the studio man it got a dry 36 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:40,269 get this gunk off my feet wow it's at 37 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:44,560 that Mississippi mud well I thought you 38 00:02:54,809 --> 00:02:51,010 drank that you know I suppose you could 39 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:54,819 if you were so inclined hey so what's 40 00:03:01,860 --> 00:02:58,080 going out there and Jasper Indiana oh 41 00:03:04,789 --> 00:03:01,870 not much just typical typical spring 42 00:03:07,410 --> 00:03:04,799 night in Jasper Indiana has got 43 00:03:13,309 --> 00:03:07,420 thunderstorms moving in and moving out 44 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:13,319 and you know that's just kind of like 45 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:17,530 free time in in Texas I guess where our 46 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:20,110 guest tonight is from all right good 47 00:03:25,710 --> 00:03:22,530 well why don't you tell our listeners 48 00:03:28,289 --> 00:03:25,720 who we're going to be speaking with go 49 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:28,299 be my pleasure well once again and 50 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:31,390 always happened happy to have a Lyle 51 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:32,560 with us 52 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:35,170 we've got Lyle Blackburn on and our Lyle 53 00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:37,840 is a native Texan known for his work in 54 00:03:42,660 --> 00:03:39,940 writing music and film and his the 55 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:42,670 author of several acclaimed books 56 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:45,489 including the Beast of Boggy Creek the 57 00:03:51,089 --> 00:03:47,980 lizard man and whose subject matter 58 00:03:54,180 --> 00:03:51,099 reflects his lifelong fascination with 59 00:03:57,659 --> 00:03:54,190 legends and citing reports of unknown 60 00:04:00,330 --> 00:03:57,669 creatures now Lyle is also the founder 61 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:00,340 of the fantastic rock band ghoul town 62 00:04:05,909 --> 00:04:03,310 and narrator producer of documentary 63 00:04:09,089 --> 00:04:05,919 films such as the Mothman of Point 64 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:09,099 Pleasant and boggy creek monster now his 65 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:12,340 most recent book is Momo The Strange 66 00:04:18,569 --> 00:04:15,849 Case of the Missouri monster a while is 67 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:18,579 a frequent guest on radio programs such 68 00:04:23,940 --> 00:04:21,130 as exploring the bizarre and yeah I 69 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:23,950 don't know some other programs probably 70 00:04:27,870 --> 00:04:25,360 you've never heard of like coast to 71 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:27,880 coast am and he's been featured on 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:29,710 numerous television shows airing on 73 00:04:36,270 --> 00:04:32,010 Animal Planet destination America 74 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:36,280 Discovery Science and a and E his and 75 00:04:42,089 --> 00:04:39,250 his works with monsters and mysteries in 76 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:42,099 America he served as both consulting 77 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:45,849 producer and special episode host so 78 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:47,770 while very happy to have you back again 79 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:51,190 on exploring the bizarre thanks for 80 00:04:56,189 --> 00:04:53,530 having us this is gonna be quite an 81 00:04:58,490 --> 00:04:56,199 evening in fact I think we ought to 82 00:05:02,610 --> 00:04:58,500 mention here at the top of the show that 83 00:05:04,589 --> 00:05:02,620 our friend Sammy Scarlett who's been on 84 00:05:08,339 --> 00:05:04,599 the program several times 85 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:08,349 is going to be hosting a Film Festival 86 00:05:14,249 --> 00:05:10,960 on June 6th 7th and 8th it was it's 87 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:14,259 three days the weekend and one of the 88 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:17,289 films terror in the sky has been 89 00:05:24,689 --> 00:05:21,089 narrated by our guest this evening and 90 00:05:27,689 --> 00:05:24,699 it's going to be held in Manhattan 44th 91 00:05:31,049 --> 00:05:27,699 Street and ninth Avenue at the producers 92 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:31,059 Club and I think she's gonna have three 93 00:05:39,449 --> 00:05:34,089 films a night some of which we've 94 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:39,459 discussed on the the show here now you 95 00:05:47,219 --> 00:05:43,330 know I kind of Momo and I kind of go 96 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:47,229 back a number of the years back when the 97 00:05:54,299 --> 00:05:50,409 the sightings first the started I happen 98 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:54,309 to be writing for Hayden Hughes is a 99 00:06:00,949 --> 00:05:58,330 newsletter and Hayden was among those of 100 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:00,959 the the first if not the first two 101 00:06:07,799 --> 00:06:04,330 investigates reports of this three a 102 00:06:10,589 --> 00:06:07,809 toad creature but I want to get there 103 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:10,599 Lyle to tell us them about the history 104 00:06:19,339 --> 00:06:13,360 of mo mo where did it all begin and 105 00:06:22,049 --> 00:06:19,349 where well this takes place in the small 106 00:06:25,170 --> 00:06:22,059 confusingly named town of Louisiana 107 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:25,180 Missouri and that's located enough on 108 00:06:28,799 --> 00:06:27,039 the far eastern border along the 109 00:06:36,409 --> 00:06:28,809 Mississippi River just across from 110 00:06:39,509 --> 00:06:36,419 Illinois and back in the summer of 1972 111 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:39,519 there were some kids playing out in 112 00:06:46,499 --> 00:06:44,050 their backyard in the rural area that 113 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:46,509 backed up to this wooded area called 114 00:06:52,019 --> 00:06:49,990 Martha Hill and teri and Wally Harrison 115 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:52,029 were playing out there and they looked 116 00:06:59,279 --> 00:06:55,209 up to see this huge hulking hairy 117 00:07:02,399 --> 00:06:59,289 creature standing you know within 50 118 00:07:05,009 --> 00:07:02,409 feet of them and it was you know covered 119 00:07:09,359 --> 00:07:05,019 in hair was standing upright somewhat a 120 00:07:12,149 --> 00:07:09,369 fish but its hair was longer covering 121 00:07:15,299 --> 00:07:12,159 its face its head was as they described 122 00:07:16,769 --> 00:07:15,309 it at least pumpkin size and it was 123 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:16,779 holding something that looked like a 124 00:07:21,659 --> 00:07:18,370 dead dog perhaps and it 125 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:21,669 blood on its fur and of course Terry and 126 00:07:28,170 --> 00:07:25,150 Wally they were just young kids and they 127 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:28,180 you know they frightened and ran for the 128 00:07:34,530 --> 00:07:30,810 house and their older sister dorsen 129 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:34,540 Doris Doris Harrison was about 14 or 15 130 00:07:38,969 --> 00:07:36,490 years old at the time she looked out the 131 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:38,979 window and also saw this thing out there 132 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:41,410 and I got her brothers in there and you 133 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:44,110 know they immediately called their 134 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:45,850 mother who then called their father 135 00:07:52,379 --> 00:07:50,260 Edgar and by the time he got home to 136 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:52,389 check on him of course there was no sign 137 00:07:57,330 --> 00:07:55,570 or whatever this thing was but you know 138 00:08:00,020 --> 00:07:57,340 he looked around found evidence of 139 00:08:02,670 --> 00:08:00,030 something that was standing around there 140 00:08:05,460 --> 00:08:02,680 you know perhaps some hair and he found 141 00:08:08,189 --> 00:08:05,470 you know blight traces of footprints and 142 00:08:12,390 --> 00:08:08,199 broken branches and so forth and this 143 00:08:13,830 --> 00:08:12,400 somehow got in the newspaper and that's 144 00:08:15,779 --> 00:08:13,840 that's kind of where it all began 145 00:08:19,170 --> 00:08:15,789 because within a short period of time 146 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:19,180 once the news the local paper printed 147 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:22,930 the story others came forward saying 148 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:25,450 they had seen things and then from there 149 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:29,110 other very bizarre things happened which 150 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:31,360 included more sightings of this alleged 151 00:08:37,140 --> 00:08:35,200 creature and it was dubbed Momo short 152 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:37,150 for an abbreviation for Missouri which 153 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:40,390 is MO and the monster so mo Mo's I have 154 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:43,570 a sounding name but that that's where 155 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:47,920 we're all started now Peter reminded me 156 00:08:52,829 --> 00:08:50,140 that there was an incident that I guess 157 00:08:54,449 --> 00:08:52,839 took place right at the beginning where 158 00:08:58,680 --> 00:08:54,459 a woman was looking at her kitchen 159 00:09:01,110 --> 00:08:58,690 window and I apparently had a a sighting 160 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:01,120 of the creature coming pretty close to 161 00:09:08,370 --> 00:09:05,950 where she was you even call it I think 162 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:08,380 that might be the window incident was 163 00:09:14,250 --> 00:09:10,000 Doris Harrison Moore I was talking about 164 00:09:15,570 --> 00:09:14,260 I was a teen okay but that that is that 165 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:15,580 you know that's one of those that's 166 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:17,440 become kind of the most famous sighting 167 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:19,690 but certainly wasn't the only one and 168 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:22,000 that's just what we're starting and the 169 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:24,580 Harrisons were pretty much involved in 170 00:09:29,790 --> 00:09:26,320 the story from then on out because her 171 00:09:32,069 --> 00:09:29,800 father Edgar you know to just obviously 172 00:09:32,199 --> 00:09:32,079 when this was reported people are going 173 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:32,209 to 174 00:09:36,369 --> 00:09:34,490 laughs and you know say the kids are 175 00:09:38,079 --> 00:09:36,379 making stuff up but he was quite certain 176 00:09:39,790 --> 00:09:38,089 and there was no doubt you know I've 177 00:09:42,489 --> 00:09:39,800 talked to doors there was no doubt she 178 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:42,499 saw something out there or so their 179 00:09:48,069 --> 00:09:44,809 father was trying to you know vindicate 180 00:09:50,619 --> 00:09:48,079 and prove what they had seen well can 181 00:09:52,929 --> 00:09:50,629 you give us a more detailed description 182 00:09:56,109 --> 00:09:52,939 of Momo how tall was he 183 00:10:01,720 --> 00:09:56,119 how long was his hair so forth and of 184 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:01,730 course the three toes right yeah over 185 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:04,399 time I mean the Harrisons had a great up 186 00:10:07,359 --> 00:10:05,990 close sighting and there was one that 187 00:10:09,939 --> 00:10:07,369 happened a year earlier 188 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:09,949 unbeknownst to anybody and this wasn't 189 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:11,689 in the newspapers this wasn't uncovered 190 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:13,790 till later in which some women were 191 00:10:19,290 --> 00:10:16,610 picnicking and a little scenic turn out 192 00:10:22,499 --> 00:10:19,300 not very far from the Harrisons home and 193 00:10:25,749 --> 00:10:22,509 had a clear daylight sighting when this 194 00:10:27,850 --> 00:10:25,759 thing came out of the woods so if you've 195 00:10:30,609 --> 00:10:27,860 got to put all those together the 196 00:10:36,009 --> 00:10:30,619 description is essentially something 197 00:10:38,859 --> 00:10:36,019 that stood perhaps six feet tall what 198 00:10:42,819 --> 00:10:38,869 wasn't overly tall you know maybe up to 199 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:42,829 six feet the hair was dark in color it 200 00:10:47,379 --> 00:10:44,959 was you know maybe three or four inches 201 00:10:50,549 --> 00:10:47,389 all over the body but on the head it was 202 00:10:52,929 --> 00:10:50,559 very long you know like you know like 203 00:10:56,079 --> 00:10:52,939 hanging down so much that it hung 204 00:11:01,780 --> 00:10:56,089 completely over the face a very ratty on 205 00:11:03,549 --> 00:11:01,790 top it had a larger head you know the 206 00:11:05,259 --> 00:11:03,559 kids described as a pumpkin sized head I 207 00:11:07,329 --> 00:11:05,269 don't know if that translates to 208 00:11:09,749 --> 00:11:07,339 something like a sagittal crest or if 209 00:11:13,210 --> 00:11:09,759 it's a your real Atty 210 00:11:17,379 --> 00:11:13,220 anatomy or just a big head I don't know 211 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:17,389 but it most of the witnesses have got 212 00:11:23,109 --> 00:11:20,230 clothes said it had a foul rank odor 213 00:11:25,989 --> 00:11:23,119 yeah yeah they usually do right I mean I 214 00:11:27,939 --> 00:11:25,999 remember investigated years and years 215 00:11:29,949 --> 00:11:27,949 ago the skunk man in the Everglades now 216 00:11:31,809 --> 00:11:29,959 that was the first thing I think any of 217 00:11:33,970 --> 00:11:31,819 the witnesses mentioned is that you 218 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:33,980 could smell them before you could see 219 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:37,490 them right yeah that definitely plays 220 00:11:42,269 --> 00:11:39,410 obviously the skunk ape was named after 221 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:42,279 the smell and a lot of these you know 222 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:45,710 especially southern Bigfoot type 223 00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:47,510 encounters people describe that smell 224 00:11:54,220 --> 00:11:51,470 and you know in the case of Momo the 225 00:11:56,770 --> 00:11:54,230 footprints some footprints were later 226 00:11:58,510 --> 00:11:56,780 found in various spots around and were 227 00:12:00,760 --> 00:11:58,520 surmised to be that of the creature in 228 00:12:04,210 --> 00:12:00,770 all these cases it appeared to have 229 00:12:06,730 --> 00:12:04,220 three toes so that obviously waited all 230 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:06,740 the more monstrous and all the more 231 00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:09,170 puzzling as to what it was because it 232 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:12,400 doesn't quite fit into the Bigfoot 233 00:12:18,190 --> 00:12:16,760 category but does fit in with a lot of 234 00:12:20,620 --> 00:12:18,200 these southern sasquatch 235 00:12:24,430 --> 00:12:20,630 for example the boggy creek monster was 236 00:12:27,220 --> 00:12:24,440 said to have three toes so that was kind 237 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:27,230 of a general you know description and 238 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:30,320 anatomy of this thing that was seen 239 00:12:35,950 --> 00:12:32,870 around the town could they tell anything 240 00:12:40,590 --> 00:12:35,960 about the weight of the creature from 241 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:43,840 no not too much most most of the tracks 242 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:47,600 were quite you know not not good 243 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:51,170 specimens necessarily so it was hard to 244 00:12:56,020 --> 00:12:53,570 tell or it was in there was one in muddy 245 00:12:59,650 --> 00:12:56,030 muddy conditions so of course it's going 246 00:13:01,870 --> 00:12:59,660 to sink lower most the tracks were vague 247 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:01,880 at best because it was a dry summer and 248 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:03,950 you're just not going you know just not 249 00:13:09,310 --> 00:13:07,850 going to leave tracks I mean very well 250 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:09,320 so the you know the weight of the 251 00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:11,510 creature I mean nobody caught and made 252 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:14,420 an estimate per se but you know it was 253 00:13:21,820 --> 00:13:18,950 it was big I mean it was a pike and you 254 00:13:23,380 --> 00:13:21,830 know a lot of some kids said it was a 255 00:13:25,570 --> 00:13:23,390 couple of kids that said you know we saw 256 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:25,580 something big and hairy it could have 257 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:28,370 been a bear but if it was it was big and 258 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:31,310 was standing upright you know and they 259 00:13:37,180 --> 00:13:34,040 were there were no big bears in that 260 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:37,190 area I mean so you know it was obviously 261 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:41,270 big and a bear is pretty big well did 262 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:44,720 the authorities come into play here at 263 00:13:52,030 --> 00:13:49,970 all oh absolutely it wasn't long I mean 264 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:52,040 you know they got wind of the Harrisons 265 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:55,610 incident and then other residents begin 266 00:13:59,440 --> 00:13:58,490 calling the Chief of Police and saying 267 00:14:01,960 --> 00:13:59,450 you know we saw 268 00:14:04,570 --> 00:14:01,970 some kind of a big figure one across the 269 00:14:07,930 --> 00:14:04,580 road we heard ungodly Howl's coming from 270 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:07,940 the woods literally around the same 271 00:14:14,350 --> 00:14:11,650 evening as the Harrisons had seen it and 272 00:14:17,530 --> 00:14:14,360 there were there were other incidents in 273 00:14:20,140 --> 00:14:17,540 which about three days after the 274 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:20,150 Harrison sighting they were having a 275 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:21,650 prayer meeting at the Harrison's home 276 00:14:27,070 --> 00:14:25,430 and that her father Edgar led and after 277 00:14:29,430 --> 00:14:27,080 dispersed it was about a dozen people 278 00:14:33,370 --> 00:14:29,440 standing outside when they saw these 279 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:33,380 strange lighted objects in the sky their 280 00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:36,110 streaked down and a green one and a 281 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:38,480 white one and then all of a sudden they 282 00:14:44,830 --> 00:14:41,540 hear this like growling loud growling 283 00:14:49,450 --> 00:14:44,840 source noise and a metallic noise and if 284 00:14:51,310 --> 00:14:49,460 this was so loud that eventually a lot 285 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:51,320 of the neighbors were coming up the 286 00:14:55,870 --> 00:14:52,970 street to see what it was and the 287 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:55,880 Harrisons were fleeing the home and miss 288 00:15:00,070 --> 00:14:58,370 Harrison just yet leaned out the window 289 00:15:02,470 --> 00:15:00,080 and said something like they're coming 290 00:15:06,130 --> 00:15:02,480 and this big crowd of people just 291 00:15:08,290 --> 00:15:06,140 dispersed and ran and so with all that 292 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:08,300 of course the authorities became 293 00:15:14,140 --> 00:15:10,670 concerned as to what is going on here 294 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:14,150 and whether the Chief of Police believed 295 00:15:18,220 --> 00:15:16,310 there was a creature or not I mean I 296 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:18,230 don't think he necessarily did but he 297 00:15:22,210 --> 00:15:20,930 was certain it was so loud and talk so 298 00:15:28,270 --> 00:15:22,220 much of there was a lot of talk about 299 00:15:32,530 --> 00:15:28,280 moonshine well yeah it's not wasn't a 300 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:32,540 big moonshine town there it's a 301 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:34,370 Riverside kind of a cockle barry finn 302 00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:36,650 tom sawyer esque you know i've been 303 00:15:43,630 --> 00:15:40,880 there it's a you know a river trade kind 304 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:43,640 of town so I wasn't particularly what's 305 00:15:52,570 --> 00:15:46,250 the population what's the population 306 00:15:58,060 --> 00:15:52,580 ah five to maybe five thousand now maybe 307 00:16:00,730 --> 00:15:58,070 back then it was probably a thousand I'm 308 00:16:05,530 --> 00:16:00,740 not too sure but very so do we have 309 00:16:08,650 --> 00:16:05,540 crocodiles running around no this is 310 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:08,660 there's no low or swampy areas this is 311 00:16:15,999 --> 00:16:12,649 very much it's lonely 312 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:16,009 Hills there's farms intermingled with 313 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:18,110 wooded areas there's cliffs 314 00:16:22,059 --> 00:16:20,089 well Bluffs I mean they're not high 315 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:22,069 cliffs or Bluffs that overlook the 316 00:16:27,609 --> 00:16:25,519 Mississippi River very very much kind of 317 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:27,619 if you just picture that Tom Sawyer kind 318 00:16:35,290 --> 00:16:33,050 of Missouri type of a landscape that's 319 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:35,300 what it is so definitely not it is there 320 00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:38,350 is there a river that flows near their 321 00:16:45,009 --> 00:16:42,079 Mississippi River is you know it's just 322 00:16:48,699 --> 00:16:45,019 I mean from the Harrison's home the 323 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:48,709 river is about a quarter of a mile maybe 324 00:16:55,299 --> 00:16:52,939 and and there were sightings of Lomo and 325 00:16:57,429 --> 00:16:55,309 a couple of occasions people who live 326 00:17:00,040 --> 00:16:57,439 like literally right on the river mean 327 00:17:02,169 --> 00:17:00,050 there's homes that you go down this 328 00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:02,179 river River Road it's what's called and 329 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:03,920 I mean there's homes right on the river 330 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:06,230 and one old-timer dinner said he saw it 331 00:17:12,669 --> 00:17:09,079 headed towards you know the bank of the 332 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:12,679 Mississippi so but now he never he never 333 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:16,390 harmed anybody snatched any dogs or 334 00:17:24,340 --> 00:17:20,890 killed a chicken or two well the 335 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:24,350 Harrison kids saw that it was holding 336 00:17:31,810 --> 00:17:29,570 something they thought the youngest said 337 00:17:34,659 --> 00:17:31,820 he thought at first it was a baby and 338 00:17:38,139 --> 00:17:34,669 was holding but then he thought he sure 339 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:38,149 was a dead dog and so later on several 340 00:17:42,730 --> 00:17:40,880 of you know the local resident said you 341 00:17:47,470 --> 00:17:42,740 know my dog's been missing since about 342 00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:47,480 then so you know it was surmise that 343 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:49,279 perhaps the creature had killed the dogs 344 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:55,010 and but dogs go missing you probably 345 00:17:59,680 --> 00:17:57,370 there all the time 346 00:18:01,000 --> 00:17:59,690 yeah well and that's the thing about 347 00:18:03,610 --> 00:18:01,010 these things because as soon as some 348 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:03,620 weirds going on people will notice that 349 00:18:11,409 --> 00:18:06,110 but it's not like dogs yeah don't go 350 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:11,419 missing me as a daily basis okay you 351 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:13,490 know I I remember I remember Tim though 352 00:18:19,630 --> 00:18:16,610 when when this all happened originally 353 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:19,640 and I tell you the press and then you 354 00:18:25,450 --> 00:18:21,980 know the paranormal media magazines 355 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:25,460 stuff they really seized on 356 00:18:31,180 --> 00:18:28,010 aspect though of the story the the 357 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:31,190 possibility that you know Momo was a dog 358 00:18:37,630 --> 00:18:36,220 yeah I mean it was you know that's just 359 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:37,640 one of those things that gave it that 360 00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:40,970 kind of personality it eats dogs and 361 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:43,700 then once the objects were seen in the 362 00:18:50,010 --> 00:18:46,850 sky and there were subsequent objects 363 00:18:52,539 --> 00:18:50,020 seen within later that month 364 00:18:54,450 --> 00:18:52,549 that's what kind of drew in a lot of the 365 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:54,460 UFO investigators because their 366 00:19:00,279 --> 00:18:58,090 supposition was that perhaps this was a 367 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:00,289 extraterrestrial you know not not like a 368 00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:02,330 Bigfoot or something enough paint hues 369 00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:05,240 you know was mostly into UFOs yeah 370 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:08,000 things at the time so there just wasn't 371 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:10,010 a lot of Bigfoot researchers back then 372 00:19:17,889 --> 00:19:14,240 say Loren Coleman and a few in that area 373 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:17,899 so luckily a lot of these some MUFON 374 00:19:22,210 --> 00:19:20,090 guys and other UFO researchers went in 375 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:22,220 there and interviewed people and kind of 376 00:19:30,490 --> 00:19:25,010 documented the story kind of like a 377 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:30,500 chestnut the ridge that another incident 378 00:19:36,820 --> 00:19:33,770 there in Pennsylvania that they made a 379 00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:36,830 movie out of and it seems that there 380 00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:38,799 definitely is a connection between the 381 00:19:45,730 --> 00:19:42,200 strange lights and the sky and sounds 382 00:19:49,210 --> 00:19:45,740 and all sorts of weird events that tie 383 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:49,220 in with the use of it creature sightings 384 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:52,130 in fact we have one case I believe the 385 00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:54,799 guy's name was Boswell don't remember 386 00:20:01,180 --> 00:19:57,710 his first name but he did a drawing for 387 00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:01,190 me I believe was up in Wisconsin he got 388 00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:02,960 close to the object which was 389 00:20:09,279 --> 00:20:05,750 transparent and he saw a Bigfoot at the 390 00:20:11,860 --> 00:20:09,289 controls now I think that's gotta be I 391 00:20:14,620 --> 00:20:11,870 think that's got to be a first said you 392 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:14,630 know I mean Bigfoot has been seen around 393 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:16,370 the land in UFOs but I don't think he's 394 00:20:22,289 --> 00:20:19,010 ever been seen piloting and the craft 395 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:22,299 accepted this one case huh 396 00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:26,450 yeah and I did I did you know look into 397 00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:29,000 other cases that may be similar of 398 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:31,390 course Chestnut Ridge and some of the 399 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:34,570 Pennsylvania stuff that Stan Gordon had 400 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:36,860 researched in the early 70s where you 401 00:20:43,399 --> 00:20:38,730 had you know 402 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:43,409 in the proximity of you had strange UFO 403 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:45,210 like things and then Bigfoot sightings 404 00:20:51,349 --> 00:20:47,609 but yeah you never really had I couldn't 405 00:20:53,479 --> 00:20:51,359 find any that were say you know people 406 00:20:55,549 --> 00:20:53,489 saying I saw it gone off the craft or 407 00:20:57,279 --> 00:20:55,559 with the exception of that one where it 408 00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:57,289 was piloting a craft it was always just 409 00:21:02,330 --> 00:20:59,460 coincidental and whether the two 410 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:02,340 unconnected was impossible to say and 411 00:21:07,549 --> 00:21:05,129 just that weird stuff goes on especially 412 00:21:10,399 --> 00:21:07,559 in that corridor and Chestnut Ridge is 413 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:10,409 not that far from from Louisiana 414 00:21:17,419 --> 00:21:14,369 Missouri you know would you say that 415 00:21:20,060 --> 00:21:17,429 what is your opinion as to the physical 416 00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:20,070 properties of Momo where some of these 417 00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:21,960 other creatures are we dealing with 418 00:21:30,499 --> 00:21:25,080 flesh-and-blood monsters or is this 419 00:21:33,049 --> 00:21:30,509 something paranormal well I mean you 420 00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:33,059 know again kind of hard to say unless 421 00:21:37,999 --> 00:21:35,580 I've seen it up close but just kind of 422 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:38,009 judging from some of the reports and 423 00:21:41,479 --> 00:21:39,450 especially the one that I talked about 424 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:41,489 the ladies who were picnicking a year 425 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:45,210 earlier in 1971 they I mean they were 426 00:21:50,869 --> 00:21:47,820 there and it was broad daylight and this 427 00:21:53,899 --> 00:21:50,879 thing emerged from the woods and they 428 00:21:57,409 --> 00:21:53,909 fled to their little VW bug and got in 429 00:21:59,509 --> 00:21:57,419 it and this thing just meandered out dug 430 00:22:04,070 --> 00:21:59,519 around their picnic area and walked up 431 00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:04,080 to the car I mean did they leave their 432 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:07,190 purse on the picnic table or something 433 00:22:12,590 --> 00:22:10,440 yeah see they they got up and ran when 434 00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:12,600 they saw it and then realized the purse 435 00:22:17,479 --> 00:22:14,100 was sitting there with the keys so they 436 00:22:19,940 --> 00:22:17,489 were stuck in the car ah boy that is a 437 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:19,950 to cool in the things but I mean they're 438 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:21,809 literally looking at this thing standing 439 00:22:27,259 --> 00:22:24,450 right outside the car so they were very 440 00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:27,269 adamant that it was a physical being 441 00:22:32,269 --> 00:22:29,220 that it was not a human it wasn't a 442 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,279 person in a suit and it was a plug so uh 443 00:22:36,289 --> 00:22:34,080 you know I kind of wish you could tell 444 00:22:38,379 --> 00:22:36,299 man you could tell if it's a you could 445 00:22:40,909 --> 00:22:38,389 tell if it was that close that's for 446 00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:40,919 that's for sure hey they could I asked 447 00:22:45,139 --> 00:22:43,320 he they could have asked for him to push 448 00:22:46,849 --> 00:22:45,149 the car and it might have gotten the 449 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:46,859 night of there pretty quickly or 450 00:22:56,899 --> 00:22:52,169 something out of them does Elmo feel 451 00:23:00,499 --> 00:22:56,909 is he afraid of humans it doesn't seem 452 00:23:02,539 --> 00:23:00,509 so I mean most of the sightings it you 453 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:02,549 know it didn't shy away I mean it didn't 454 00:23:09,169 --> 00:23:07,049 attack them but it didn't you know the 455 00:23:11,299 --> 00:23:09,179 one approached the car until the girls 456 00:23:12,769 --> 00:23:11,309 until those ladies honked the horn then 457 00:23:15,169 --> 00:23:12,779 it was startled and kind of headed off 458 00:23:17,299 --> 00:23:15,179 back towards the woods but yeah it 459 00:23:19,549 --> 00:23:17,309 didn't seem to be very fearful it almost 460 00:23:22,099 --> 00:23:19,559 seemed to be like I don't know if it was 461 00:23:24,229 --> 00:23:22,109 curious I think more curious perhaps and 462 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:24,239 just would emerge from the woods and 463 00:23:30,289 --> 00:23:28,169 look around till the people ran off and 464 00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:30,299 then it fled back into the woods you 465 00:23:39,169 --> 00:23:35,609 know how long were was was he hanging 466 00:23:42,259 --> 00:23:39,179 around the neighborhood you say was 1972 467 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:42,269 that was the first sightings right right 468 00:23:47,299 --> 00:23:45,690 so it started on July 11th 1972 and the 469 00:23:49,460 --> 00:23:47,309 Harrisons made the paper and there was a 470 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:49,470 lot of newspaper coverage for a couple 471 00:23:55,340 --> 00:23:53,039 of months in off and on sightings the 472 00:23:58,009 --> 00:23:55,350 newspaper kind of lost interest after 473 00:23:59,930 --> 00:23:58,019 that and then there were residual 474 00:24:02,269 --> 00:23:59,940 sightings for a couple of years in that 475 00:24:04,770 --> 00:24:02,279 era commercial commercial but I'm not 476 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:04,780 right now we'll be right back 477 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:17,580 now back to exploring the bazaars with 478 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:20,169 two of the most electrifying researchers 479 00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:23,470 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 480 00:24:31,619 --> 00:24:29,830 Lee and kings all right welcome back to 481 00:24:33,690 --> 00:24:31,629 exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Schwarz 482 00:24:38,879 --> 00:24:33,700 tonight we're talking with Lyle 483 00:24:42,539 --> 00:24:38,889 Blackburn about the mysterious hairy 484 00:24:46,859 --> 00:24:42,549 cryptid creatures that hopefully are 485 00:24:51,529 --> 00:24:46,869 listening to our program tonight so Lyle 486 00:24:57,570 --> 00:24:51,539 I think that a lot of people who may 487 00:25:01,440 --> 00:24:57,580 only run across stories about Sasquatch 488 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:01,450 Bigfoot on reality television may be 489 00:25:10,340 --> 00:25:06,730 surprised to hear that there's probably 490 00:25:13,499 --> 00:25:10,350 been more sightings of these big hairy 491 00:25:18,379 --> 00:25:13,509 cryptids outside of the Pacific 492 00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:20,729 yeah absolutely I don't think your 493 00:25:26,249 --> 00:25:24,070 average person is aware of you know how 494 00:25:28,229 --> 00:25:26,259 how many states there's been reports and 495 00:25:30,749 --> 00:25:28,239 how many reports there are I mean he's 496 00:25:32,369 --> 00:25:30,759 just you know wrote a book called beyond 497 00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:32,379 boggy creek in search of the southern 498 00:25:35,609 --> 00:25:33,909 Sasquatch which I thought was going to 499 00:25:38,249 --> 00:25:35,619 cover the whole sort of south of the 500 00:25:40,049 --> 00:25:38,259 u.s. well I had to put that down to just 501 00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:40,059 the deep south because there was so much 502 00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:42,460 history and you know skunk Apes and all 503 00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:45,070 this yeah it's it's a lot and most 504 00:25:50,669 --> 00:25:47,080 people don't just think I almost think a 505 00:25:53,099 --> 00:25:50,679 Bigfoot being one entity in the Pacific 506 00:25:54,989 --> 00:25:53,109 Northwest but that's hardly the case no 507 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:54,999 way you know you say one entity there 508 00:26:00,239 --> 00:25:58,090 was a television reporter not too long 509 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:00,249 ago who was covering like a Bigfoot 510 00:26:04,769 --> 00:26:02,529 conference somewhere I think was 511 00:26:07,409 --> 00:26:04,779 Pennsylvania and and she was actually 512 00:26:09,299 --> 00:26:07,419 surprised to hear that there were that 513 00:26:09,989 --> 00:26:09,309 it's probably more than just one one 514 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:09,999 Bigfoot 515 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:13,720 yeah there's more than one she said has 516 00:26:22,649 --> 00:26:20,049 a sec oh my god yes a naive view of it 517 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:22,659 it's like if you you know spend five 518 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:23,530 minutes Reese 519 00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:26,650 you'd have to logically conclude if if 520 00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:28,480 they exist there have to be small 521 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:33,400 populations or can't just be one now 522 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:38,290 when it comes to Momo its description 523 00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:42,610 and where it was generally seen is very 524 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,750 reminiscent of other you know and I'll 525 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:48,400 put quotation marks around the word geo 526 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:54,310 southern a Bigfoot or hairy cryptids I 527 00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:56,530 mean it sounds like it could be a 528 00:27:01,050 --> 00:26:59,050 kissing cousin say you know the boggy 529 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:01,060 creek monster or some of the other ones 530 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:02,530 that have been cited you know seem like 531 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:06,480 an Arkansas and Texas places like that 532 00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:09,490 yeah very much and you know I kind of 533 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:11,590 like covering those stories being from 534 00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:13,570 Texas I'm you know kind of the southern 535 00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:16,360 cryptid guy and Momo very much fits into 536 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:19,030 that that the creatures are generally 537 00:27:26,430 --> 00:27:21,250 described as having the longer hair the 538 00:27:29,370 --> 00:27:26,440 more menacing sort of personality or 539 00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:29,380 vibe to them just just like boggy creek 540 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:33,520 and Momo and you know the waterways 541 00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:35,830 always play into whether it's boggy 542 00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:38,950 creek or us a swamp or the Mississippi 543 00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:41,830 River there with Momo and you know these 544 00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:45,550 they affect you know the entire small 545 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:47,740 towns these southern towns these little 546 00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:49,690 towns and you know it's it's it has a 547 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:52,150 cultural impact which is also a 548 00:27:57,780 --> 00:27:54,970 fascinating aspect of these is how these 549 00:28:00,840 --> 00:27:57,790 towns are affected by it what the 550 00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:00,850 response of the police and and the 551 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:02,590 citizens is you know the police in this 552 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:05,050 case formed a posse it's like 20 guys 553 00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:07,210 you know shotguns and went up on Mars 554 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:10,060 off Hill searching to see if they could 555 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:12,970 find any evidence or find Momo and you 556 00:28:18,390 --> 00:28:14,770 know you just got this very much of this 557 00:28:20,130 --> 00:28:18,400 sort of southern thing going on just get 558 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:20,140 in the woods unless you know with a 559 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:22,330 shotgun and hunt this thing down you 560 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:24,370 know so those are fun parts of the 561 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:28,050 stories now but they they never do 562 00:28:35,370 --> 00:28:32,890 they're never able to catch it no and I 563 00:28:36,499 --> 00:28:35,380 that was kind of a theme and became a 564 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:36,509 bit of a 565 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:39,090 ubiquitous thing in my beyond boggy 566 00:28:45,229 --> 00:28:42,210 creek but because I cover a lot of these 567 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:45,239 cases and they you know and they would 568 00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,129 all you know the posse was always formed 569 00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:50,159 and alas nothing was found you know so 570 00:28:56,269 --> 00:28:53,369 but if he got 20 guys tromping through 571 00:28:59,149 --> 00:28:56,279 the woods this is not the wild animals 572 00:29:01,009 --> 00:28:59,159 you're not going to see any significant 573 00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:01,019 wild a old ears maybe but you're not 574 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:03,299 going to see notice a not gonna see 575 00:29:09,109 --> 00:29:06,570 Cougars and bears they're gonna be miles 576 00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:09,119 off we drop into the woods like that so 577 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:11,460 it you know it's not surprising they 578 00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:12,809 didn't find anything when they gained 579 00:29:20,029 --> 00:29:16,799 you know plunging enough tickets now the 580 00:29:23,299 --> 00:29:20,039 the 70s are especially the early 581 00:29:26,409 --> 00:29:23,309 seventies in that area of the United 582 00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:26,419 States Surry Illinois even over into 583 00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:31,679 Indiana seem to have really a lot of 584 00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:34,200 weird cryptid types of sightings you 585 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:37,919 know you had yet Momo a little bit later 586 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:41,090 in Illinois you had all of the 587 00:29:48,049 --> 00:29:47,039 Thunderbird sightings and a little 588 00:29:50,269 --> 00:29:48,059 further up north 589 00:29:54,009 --> 00:29:50,279 you're like around Chicago in Wisconsin 590 00:29:57,999 --> 00:29:54,019 you had people seeing kangaroos what 591 00:30:01,039 --> 00:29:58,009 what was it about the early seventies I 592 00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:01,049 don't know I mean definitely was kind of 593 00:30:07,399 --> 00:30:04,590 a golden age of high strangeness if you 594 00:30:10,090 --> 00:30:07,409 will and the Golden Age of Bigfoot 595 00:30:12,739 --> 00:30:10,100 reports and and all of that it was just 596 00:30:15,379 --> 00:30:12,749 there was just a burgeoning interest in 597 00:30:18,619 --> 00:30:15,389 that and I think in some cases the news 598 00:30:20,749 --> 00:30:18,629 was willing to entertain or cover these 599 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:20,759 stories and a lot of them got a lot of 600 00:30:25,729 --> 00:30:24,330 news press and that you know even in the 601 00:30:27,739 --> 00:30:25,739 case of Boggy Creek monster that 602 00:30:30,049 --> 00:30:27,749 translated into attracting a filmmaker 603 00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:30,059 who made the Legend of Boggy Creek which 604 00:30:36,049 --> 00:30:34,230 made that even more famous but that kind 605 00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,059 of just there was just that thing that 606 00:30:41,289 --> 00:30:37,919 in the Patterson Gimlin film which was 607 00:30:43,539 --> 00:30:41,299 was filmed in the famous Bigfoot film in 608 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:43,549 1967 and was starting to be played 609 00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:45,809 around and people were seeing it in the 610 00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:47,220 70s so I think a lot of people are just 611 00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:49,830 interested and that brought out a lot of 612 00:30:52,830 --> 00:30:50,260 these 613 00:30:57,090 --> 00:30:52,840 and so anything that took place like 614 00:31:01,380 --> 00:30:57,100 Momo got tons of press coverage where 615 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:01,390 I've seen similar cases in later years 616 00:31:07,050 --> 00:31:04,810 you know in the 90s and 2000's just it 617 00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:07,060 just wasn't made a big deal so I think 618 00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:09,520 it was just the timing of it's not that 619 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:12,160 I mean there was a lot happening for 620 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:15,370 sure but it was just a time when News 621 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:18,250 was willing to really cover those things 622 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:21,310 a lot and just made these cases very 623 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:24,070 famous and sort of the the classics of 624 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:27,670 cryptozoology well now speaking of films 625 00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:31,720 I guess that Seth Breedlove is and 626 00:31:40,290 --> 00:31:35,080 yourself getting ready to start shooting 627 00:31:43,050 --> 00:31:40,300 on a Momo film yes yeah we're excited 628 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:43,060 about this one I've I've done I've been 629 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:46,240 involved in for his small town monsters 630 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:49,090 films I've narrated for been on camera 631 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:52,510 and co-produced or what in some capacity 632 00:31:58,860 --> 00:31:56,530 and with Momo and it's one that you know 633 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,870 he's been wanting to do and obviously at 634 00:32:04,790 --> 00:32:01,440 the timing with my book and having 635 00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:04,800 spearheaded some of the research then 636 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:07,270 we're going to there's going to be a 637 00:32:11,250 --> 00:32:08,650 little bit different approach than the 638 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:11,260 documentaries we've done before this is 639 00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:14,260 going to be it's going to be a fun 640 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:15,820 approach it's going to really kind of 641 00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:18,910 bring up that 70s vibe the murmur case 642 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:21,720 and yeah we're looking forward we start 643 00:32:28,650 --> 00:32:25,690 obsess already filming now and then I 644 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:28,660 head up to to the location in Missouri 645 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:33,340 next week to film my nice my camera 646 00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:39,250 stuff and it will come out in October so 647 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:41,020 there you go Act you're actually going 648 00:32:53,490 --> 00:32:44,320 to where these sightings originally took 649 00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:53,500 place to shoot yeah Missouri and in the 650 00:32:58,530 --> 00:32:56,080 past like I think when we did the film 651 00:33:00,900 --> 00:32:58,540 baaghi three monster and I'm in that one 652 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:00,910 and interviewing people narrate it from 653 00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:03,490 my point of view and then the next 654 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:04,180 couple of 655 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:07,030 you narrate I narrated tear in the skies 656 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:09,490 and the most recent woman but with 657 00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:12,010 normal I'm going to be very much on care 658 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:15,900 camera which kind of is going to give it 659 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:17,850 somewhat if you've seen the old 660 00:33:23,550 --> 00:33:20,410 mysterious monsters which is a cool 661 00:33:25,710 --> 00:33:23,560 movie docking documentary from the 70s 662 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:25,720 is kind of that repeater grade is sort 663 00:33:33,150 --> 00:33:29,290 of the host on camera somewhat like that 664 00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:33,160 so I'm literally on site yeah you know 665 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:35,380 this incident happened here this is 666 00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,170 written on and no it's going to be cool 667 00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:40,000 I'm looking for were doing this a little 668 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:41,500 bit of them you know something different 669 00:33:45,540 --> 00:33:43,330 I get sorted I'm still carrying the 670 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:45,550 narration but I'm also on camera doing a 671 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:48,880 lot of it now what is a terror in the 672 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:51,010 sky about are we talking about the the 673 00:33:57,050 --> 00:33:53,010 Thunderbirds here 674 00:33:59,630 --> 00:33:57,060 yeah that's covers a little bit of of 675 00:34:02,910 --> 00:33:59,640 everything as far as flying cryptids 676 00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:02,920 primarily in the Illinois area and that 677 00:34:10,530 --> 00:34:05,310 includes thunder thunder bird sightings 678 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:10,540 sightings of pterodactyl or pterosaur 679 00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:16,240 type dinosaur esque creatures and even 680 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:18,400 includes some of the modern stuff with 681 00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:20,650 us what so called Chicago Mothman a 682 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:25,120 phenomenal a recent and kind of examines 683 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:27,850 just all the weirdness that it's gone 684 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:30,370 gone around over the years with flying 685 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:34,480 things and it's been screened warrants 686 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:36,040 it's not out yet but the from the 687 00:34:42,090 --> 00:34:37,930 screening it boy we got some great 688 00:34:45,390 --> 00:34:42,100 feedback so well we did we did important 689 00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:45,400 to Tim and I did a book it's been I 690 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:47,320 guess but about six or seven months it's 691 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:51,610 called weird winged wonders we did them 692 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:54,130 a bit on the Chicago North Korean 693 00:34:59,580 --> 00:34:57,010 sightings but we went back in in history 694 00:35:02,100 --> 00:34:59,590 the XM right and usually helped with 695 00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:02,110 some you came up with some cases that 696 00:35:07,350 --> 00:35:03,940 were pretty phenomenal and then you've 697 00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:07,360 got the cases more recent and there 698 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:09,040 could be a little bit more dubious where 699 00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:12,250 these flying creatures are seen a 700 00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:15,520 photograph actually you know a videotape 701 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:18,280 flying but of course now you know 702 00:35:25,410 --> 00:35:23,410 we have people who wear these wings and 703 00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:25,420 glide down out of the you know wolf the 704 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:27,400 cliffs and stuff like that and boy if 705 00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:29,950 you saw that coming at you you would 706 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:31,990 think that it was a you know flying 707 00:35:37,950 --> 00:35:33,970 creature of some sort but it's a guy in 708 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:37,960 a I guess a rubberized the suit yeah you 709 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:42,030 wouldn't be doing that in in Illinois 710 00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:45,010 the the highest point in Illinois I 711 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:48,160 think is about 10 or 12 feet below sea 712 00:35:56,340 --> 00:35:52,210 level well just don't stand behind me 713 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:56,350 and try to push me out on it well one of 714 00:36:02,870 --> 00:35:57,280 the you know one of the odd things 715 00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:02,880 though that about the the Illinois 716 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:07,240 flying cryptid sightings is that a lot 717 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:09,850 of them started really just on the other 718 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:12,910 side of the Mississippi River from where 719 00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:16,570 Momo was seen you just you swim across 720 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:20,380 and people started seeing these you know 721 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:24,130 Thunderbirds or pterodactyl terror Don 722 00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:26,890 types of creatures the then you know 723 00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:28,990 spread across the state is really 724 00:36:31,830 --> 00:36:29,350 bizarre 725 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:31,840 yeah that's it's definitely a history up 726 00:36:38,070 --> 00:36:34,480 there and uh the winged wonders as you 727 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:38,080 as you say you know that just can't it 728 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:40,330 can't all easily be explained you know 729 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:43,510 one of those cases the Marlin low case 730 00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:46,690 from 1976 what the boy was playing in 731 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:48,990 the front yard and a couple of big 732 00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:51,220 feathered creatures swooped down and 733 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:53,440 literally one of them picked up this boy 734 00:36:58,290 --> 00:36:55,810 and started flying off with it you know 735 00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,300 I mean that was seen there was seven or 736 00:37:02,730 --> 00:37:00,160 eight witnesses to that so you know you 737 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:02,740 can't people say well you know I can't 738 00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:07,510 we giant Birds or pterosaur as well you 739 00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:08,860 know I've interviewed people personally 740 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:12,760 too had a pretty good look and they saw 741 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:15,730 something I'm not sure how to explain it 742 00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:17,290 but there's there's a phenomenon there 743 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:19,600 that that continues not just in that 744 00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:21,910 area of course southern Texas even has 745 00:37:28,290 --> 00:37:24,790 some history of thunder bird type things 746 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:28,300 so there there's cases out there 747 00:37:35,010 --> 00:37:32,290 so we've got a question here from Mike 748 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:35,020 hey and he wants to know hey ask if he 749 00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:38,560 has any of the Chicago police car camera 750 00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:39,670 footage 751 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:42,390 I guess maybe he's referring to the 752 00:37:50,780 --> 00:37:47,110 winged creatures of UFOs the Madison 753 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:50,790 Fighter Wing was chasing the UFOs with 754 00:38:00,840 --> 00:37:55,770 f-16s I'm not quite sure when that was 755 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:00,850 are you for that I'm not familiar with 756 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:04,810 that you know we don't have any to my 757 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:06,730 knowledge I don't have any police 758 00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:09,010 footage or anything and there's none in 759 00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:15,700 oh you know movie so now when during the 760 00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:17,680 shooting that you're going to be doing 761 00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:21,070 there in Louisiana Missouri are there 762 00:38:28,070 --> 00:38:24,340 any eyewitnesses still around who that 763 00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:28,080 you're going to be able to get on camera 764 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:31,000 well it's been a bit of a challenge on 765 00:38:36,450 --> 00:38:33,130 that we're still hopeful that we can get 766 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:36,460 some of the Harrisons I did interview 767 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:41,190 Doris in the process of writing my book 768 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:45,250 and you know you just most of those 769 00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:48,370 folks have passed on they're just that 770 00:38:52,820 --> 00:38:49,980 was so long ago 771 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:52,830 only the younger ones and some of them 772 00:39:00,600 --> 00:38:58,050 are not so gung-ho to talk about it so 773 00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:00,610 well of course we always talked about 774 00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:02,590 the local historians people who were 775 00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:04,660 there when it all was going on and 776 00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:07,870 things like that so witnesses in this 777 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:10,390 case have been a little harder than 778 00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:12,850 others in terms of just the original 779 00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:15,520 sightings I mean we have people who have 780 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:19,960 seen hairy Bigfoot all teachers in 781 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:22,750 Missouri in subsequent years but to get 782 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:24,850 those originals is usually a 783 00:39:29,730 --> 00:39:28,090 hard-pressed we in fact who when I was 784 00:39:33,470 --> 00:39:29,740 on monsters and mysteries in America 785 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:33,480 there was a Momo segment which had Doris 786 00:39:39,330 --> 00:39:35,830 Harrison and a couple others on it and 787 00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:39,340 that's been some years ago five years 788 00:39:48,980 --> 00:39:41,790 ago or something and she was pretty 789 00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:48,990 old at that points so kind of a 790 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:51,830 two-prong question here first of all 791 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:55,410 from the original sightings in the 70s I 792 00:40:02,300 --> 00:39:58,170 mean did you run across you know any 793 00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:02,310 reports from that area earlier than that 794 00:40:08,170 --> 00:40:04,550 besides the one where the two women were 795 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:08,180 picnicking I mean had there been a 796 00:40:17,590 --> 00:40:12,290 history so to speak of people seen 797 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:20,240 yes yeah 798 00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:23,010 in the general in the exact vicinity of 799 00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:26,990 the town there wasn't much there were 800 00:40:33,070 --> 00:40:29,910 there were the ladies that it's a year 801 00:40:35,330 --> 00:40:33,080 before and a couple of other same 802 00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,340 reports that had happened about a year 803 00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:37,920 before in that very area 804 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:40,320 well then you thought I have to broaden 805 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:43,320 the scope there and go north up the 806 00:40:51,230 --> 00:40:48,450 Mississippi River you can find a history 807 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:51,240 of reports going back at least 50 years 808 00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:54,420 mm-hmm and you know I might talk about 809 00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,510 those in the book of course and just to 810 00:41:01,340 --> 00:40:59,280 kind of establish a psyche you know is 811 00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:01,350 this the first time and in that general 812 00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,360 area somes happened or is it happened in 813 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:06,720 the past but yeah there was definitely a 814 00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:11,040 history of oh you know what could be 815 00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:13,980 described as bigfoot-like creatures you 816 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:15,980 know the descriptions are often 817 00:41:20,690 --> 00:41:18,750 sometimes not detailed or whatever but 818 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:20,700 they were all definitely hairy and 819 00:41:29,060 --> 00:41:23,900 upright what we would call an Bigfoot 820 00:41:30,590 --> 00:41:29,070 yeah I know that if you go south kind of 821 00:41:34,570 --> 00:41:30,600 like in the general area where the 822 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:34,580 Mississippi and the Ohio River meet I 823 00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:38,970 apparently there was stories as far back 824 00:41:45,020 --> 00:41:42,420 as the pioneer times where you know 825 00:41:48,350 --> 00:41:45,030 people were seen they called them you 826 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:48,360 know like chimpanzees almost but not not 827 00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:51,060 really tall types of cryptids but more 828 00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:54,830 like four maybe five feet tall types of 829 00:42:02,350 --> 00:41:59,090 of hairy creatures mmm yeah yeah there's 830 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:02,360 more you big boy always flying and you 831 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:04,610 know of course the Ozarks is a in 832 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:07,850 southern Missouri and that has a long 833 00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:12,710 history of wild man stories and Bigfoot 834 00:42:17,950 --> 00:42:16,310 sightings and Ozark howler I'm all this 835 00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:17,960 and you know in the process of going to 836 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:22,790 Missouri I I met several people who 837 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:27,170 ended up had had encounters in recent 838 00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:30,650 years hairy creatures in Missouri so I 839 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:33,830 always try to you know something like 840 00:42:37,540 --> 00:42:35,810 that if it exists if it's some sort of 841 00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:37,550 an animal it's not necessary to sit in 842 00:42:45,150 --> 00:42:41,270 one spot now so it's reasonable to long 843 00:42:48,190 --> 00:42:45,160 a little you know gone on you you know 844 00:42:53,050 --> 00:42:48,200 in subsequent years and I did find some 845 00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:53,060 really spooky and really cool stories in 846 00:43:05,140 --> 00:42:55,760 that general area of Missouri they 847 00:43:07,090 --> 00:43:05,150 occurred forward not always makes me 848 00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,100 wonder you know when it comes to these 849 00:43:12,580 --> 00:43:09,200 sightings whether or not you're dealing 850 00:43:15,130 --> 00:43:12,590 with with creatures that migrated you 851 00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:15,140 know that you maybe have a tendency to 852 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:17,510 see them more during you know certain 853 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:19,970 times of the year because they're you 854 00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:22,610 know they're going from one you know so 855 00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:26,470 to speak in a hunting ground to another 856 00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:29,270 it certainly seems reasonable I mean you 857 00:43:34,410 --> 00:43:31,670 know be looking animals we know Cougars 858 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:34,420 and things their you know their ranges 859 00:43:40,660 --> 00:43:37,370 is big and they have to go where the 860 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:40,670 food is and so a big you know something 861 00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:44,330 big as big as Momo as big as Bigfoot you 862 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:45,830 know it's got to consume a lot of 863 00:43:51,340 --> 00:43:48,410 calories you can't just you know pitch 864 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:51,350 camp and stay in one area if you know 865 00:43:57,460 --> 00:43:53,810 and I think they do would reasonably 866 00:43:59,110 --> 00:43:57,470 have to move around well I think that's 867 00:44:02,650 --> 00:43:59,120 you know also why there's a lot of 868 00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:02,660 sightings around rivers you know I mean 869 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:04,910 it's a perfect perfect cover I mean even 870 00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:08,330 in most in in large cities rivers are 871 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:09,200 surrounded 872 00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:11,810 generally by trees and you know it's a 873 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:15,920 it could be a good cover absolutely I'd 874 00:44:19,930 --> 00:44:17,930 say you know that's a travel corridor 875 00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:19,940 that they would absolutely have to use 876 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:24,470 and you've got a huge correlation it 877 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:27,130 takes headings here in tax immunity to 878 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:33,410 revolutionary ways all right well while 879 00:44:38,589 --> 00:44:35,570 we've got about four minutes left in the 880 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:38,599 program so I want to let you have the 881 00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:41,650 opportunity to let our listeners know 882 00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:45,920 where they can find not only Momo but 883 00:44:51,550 --> 00:44:48,260 your other books a you know if you have 884 00:44:55,630 --> 00:44:51,560 a website and maybe what's coming up for 885 00:44:57,609 --> 00:44:55,640 you in the near future yeah we you need 886 00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,619 to check out Lyle Blackburn comm and 887 00:45:02,140 --> 00:44:59,839 that's got links to all my various 888 00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:02,150 projects from the books to the movies to 889 00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:04,609 the music and of course my books are 890 00:45:11,470 --> 00:45:08,750 available on amazon.com with they come 891 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:11,480 in you know kindle formats and paperback 892 00:45:16,990 --> 00:45:13,250 and some of the older ones are even in 893 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:17,000 hardback so check that out let's see 894 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:20,770 what if I are coming up the Momo movie 895 00:45:28,270 --> 00:45:24,130 got a monster festival going on in June 896 00:45:30,220 --> 00:45:28,280 which I'll be a part of I'm working on 897 00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:30,230 the restoration project for the original 898 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:34,790 Legend of Boggy Creek movie and so you 899 00:45:38,349 --> 00:45:36,290 know there's always perpetually 900 00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,359 something going on and you know check my 901 00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:40,400 they only check my website for my 902 00:45:45,070 --> 00:45:42,790 appearances because I'm always doing 903 00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:45,080 conferences here and there all over the 904 00:45:54,620 --> 00:45:49,190 US and the the film terror and the skies 905 00:45:57,790 --> 00:45:54,630 will be released in early June yes 906 00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:57,800 [Music] 907 00:46:01,660 --> 00:45:59,839 installment in a small town I'm not sure 908 00:46:03,099 --> 00:46:01,670 series you can you can check those out 909 00:46:07,329 --> 00:46:03,109 on Amazon they're streaming from the 910 00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:07,339 Amazon and other streaming and and and 911 00:46:13,630 --> 00:46:09,940 it will be at Sammy's the film festival 912 00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:13,640 here in Manhattan and you could find 913 00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:19,790 that internet and we'll put up a link to 914 00:46:27,070 --> 00:46:23,750 that on them our YouTube channel and I 915 00:46:30,849 --> 00:46:27,080 must say it's a it's an interesting show 916 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:30,859 to have talked about Momo and know these 917 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:33,890 other fascinating creatures of the night 918 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:37,130 which have haunted us for most of our 919 00:46:44,589 --> 00:46:40,810 lives and I think probably added to our 920 00:46:46,930 --> 00:46:44,599 interest in anything that's very strange 921 00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:46,940 and bizarre Tim would you agree oh yes 922 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:50,390 definitely I love this stuff myself and 923 00:46:59,730 --> 00:46:55,130 and don't don't forget our archives the 924 00:47:03,849 --> 00:46:59,740 show is archived on ke cor radio.com and 925 00:47:07,230 --> 00:47:03,859 you can find our YouTube channel by 926 00:47:09,550 --> 00:47:07,240 going to youtube and type again mr. UFOs 927 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:09,560 secret files and I think we're up to 928 00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:14,210 about probably well over 400 interviews 929 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:17,150 now and we've got some fascinating shows 930 00:47:24,370 --> 00:47:19,970 coming up not a not a dull not a dull 931 00:47:25,810 --> 00:47:24,380 moment on exploring the bizarre all 932 00:47:27,690 --> 00:47:25,820 right well Lyle thank you very much for 933 00:47:31,570 --> 00:47:27,700 being with us tonight 934 00:47:37,329 --> 00:47:31,580 absolutely I enjoy all right Tim we'll 935 00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:37,339 see you this time next week out looking 936 00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:44,150 for Momo right I surely will you'll be 937 00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:50,780 you've been listening to exploring the 938 00:47:58,010 --> 00:47:54,780 bazaar with hosts Timothy Becky and to 939 00:48:00,590 --> 00:47:58,020 Swartz they're taking back the night by 940 00:48:02,930 --> 00:48:00,600 jetting non-stop across the cosmos 941 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:02,940 in search of the truly bizarre and 942 00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:05,970 totally unexplained with you as their 943 00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:07,110 coal miners 944 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:09,800 Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific 945 00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:14,280 10:00 p.m. Eastern on the K cor digital 946 00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:15,510 radio 947 00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:17,940 for more information on exploring the 948 00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:21,180 bazaars and hosts Timothy Beckley and 949 00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:23,670 Tim Swartz check out their kco our 950 00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:26,880 digital radio network follow their 951 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:32,940 YouTube channel @m r UFO 1100 explore